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Old May 02, 2008, 06:43 PM // 18:43   #21
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Imagine, if you will, you're playing your Ranger alongside your Hero/Hench pals. The mob you're attacking closes and you find your Ranger in close range to the pve baddies - they are ignoring your mele buddies and are now attacking your Cynn and Ogden. At this point do you want to be able to do more damage by switching to a Vampiric Shortbow, or continue as you are - knowing that you are doing less damage using a Recurve bow? And-Switching to a spear would disable your bow attacks.

Why would you ever opt for doing less damage when you can do more damage by simply switching to a different bow?
A benefit for the Spear build is that you can use 2 +30 mods and the extra defense granted by the shield. Not so sure if the damage is really important though.
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Old May 02, 2008, 07:35 PM // 19:35   #22
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I thought this was a discussion on which bow to use, not one on Ranger using Paragon builds.

But I guess you guys know what you're doing.
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Old May 02, 2008, 07:42 PM // 19:42   #23
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I personally would pick recurve.

Just another 2 cents
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Old May 02, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40   #24
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Why would you ever opt for doing less damage when you can do more damage by simply switching to a different bow?
Why bother carrying around a shortbow when you can just 'whip out' your flatbow that you should have for pulling anyway, that acts exactly like a shortbow at shortbow range.
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Old May 02, 2008, 09:31 PM // 21:31   #25
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Why bother carrying around a shortbow when you can just 'whip out' your flatbow that you should have for pulling anyway, that acts exactly like a shortbow at shortbow range.
I put a Vampiric mod on my Shortbow and a Poison mod on my Flatbow - I like to initiate attacks with Poison Tip Signet and the Flatbow.

I was terribly disappointed though to find out Volley doesn't poison adjacent targets (pointed out in a different thread). I thought, what a great way to begin an attack - with up to 4 enemies poisoned. So the extra bow doesn't pan out quite as well as I had thought.
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Old May 02, 2008, 11:19 PM // 23:19   #26
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Why bother carrying around a shortbow when you can just 'whip out' your flatbow that you should have for pulling anyway, that acts exactly like a shortbow at shortbow range.
I agree that if your target is not moving, base dps on a flatbow is exactly the same as that of a short bow at short bow range. Additionally, the flatbow has the obvious advantage of superior range.

However, I'll bet that if you go to the Isle of the Nameless and practice archery on the Master of Healing, you'll score considerably more hits with a shortbow than you will with a flatbow, at shortbow ranges.

The shortbow's advantages of medium arc and short flight time make the arrow that much harder to dodge. If the arc and flight time were not important, no one would use recurves.

So overall, I'd have to say that "exactly" is not exactly "exactly".
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I put a Vampiric mod on my Shortbow and a Poison mod on my Flatbow
Same here. My flat and my recurve have poison mods, my short is vampiric, for increased dps at very close range.

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Old May 02, 2008, 11:32 PM // 23:32   #27
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@Red Sand, that's exactly what I was thinking, but I decided not to argue the point - glad someone did The Shortbow and the Flatbow have the same fire rate, but the Flatbow has a higher arc and a longer flight time - therefore, as you said it will inevitably miss it's target more often than the Shortbow. That aside, in the long run it probably won't make a noticeable difference. I personally like having more options at hand - just my style of play.
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Old May 03, 2008, 10:50 AM // 10:50   #28
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got the rec bow a couple of weeks ago .. really pleased i did .. so much better than short
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Old May 03, 2008, 12:07 PM // 12:07   #29
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got the rec bow a couple of weeks ago .. really pleased i did .. so much better than short
Now you tell us.

/chuckles

Like I said earlier, the recurve is like the adjustable wrench of bows.
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Old May 06, 2008, 09:21 PM // 21:21   #30
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My primary bow is a Recurve. Also use longbows. Imho, Flatbows, Hornbows, & to a lesser extent, Shortbows have no use if you have a Longbow & a Recurve.
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Old May 07, 2008, 09:49 PM // 21:49   #31
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lol, i have 12 bows on my ranger :P

and only 2 recurves

i think you should pick a bow depending on your style, if you play low hp ranger, the extra range of a longbow might be helpfull, if you play close to you target, using daze or inc-arrows, a shortbow is nice. and so i can think of a dozen of other uses per bow :P
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Old May 08, 2008, 05:55 PM // 17:55   #32
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Recurve ftw in almost all situations
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